Curse

Redvex · Jan 10, 2008, 11:11 AM // 11:11

To be exactly must be report to original situation.
Too much heal, too much short time cast and recharge. Guardian + WoH = boring battle (ra and Ta).
Someone for sure not agree.
Dazed, magebane shot etc etc but that doesn't change the situation even the noobest player can play monk easily.
Everyone can be a effective good monk

~ Dan ~ · Jan 10, 2008, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Redvex

even the noobest player can play monk easily.
Everyone can be a effective good monk

That right there shows your lack of knowledge.

damocles · Jan 10, 2008, 11:21 AM // 11:21

I think you should learn to kill/disrupt/pressure/whatever more.

Redvex · Jan 10, 2008, 11:25 AM // 11:25

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

That right there shows your lack of knowledge.

I'm sorry for the hard words. But i'm very bored of this situation
You can't deny that the battle in Ta and Ra are more longer than before.
You can't deny that everyone can played monk more easy than before.
I am against the word "noob" etc etc but in that case is exact.
In Ra and Ta you see only Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition, Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition etc etc maybe gliph o lesser energy
You can define this kind of player a good player? Everyone can spam those skills!
Ok in HA and sometimes in TA if you can make a good time but in RA....
Splinter Weapon is nerfed
EW is nerfed
Why not Woh that is more annoyin that sw and Ew?

blue.rellik · Jan 10, 2008, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redvex

You can't deny that the battle in Ta and Ra are more longer than before.
You can't deny that everyone can played monk more easy than before.
I am against the word "noob" etc etc but in that case is exact.
In Ra and Ta you see only Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition, Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition etc etc maybe gliph o lesser energy
You can define this kind of player a good player? Everyone can spam those skills!
Ok in HA and sometimes in TA if you can make a good time but in RA....
Splinter Weapon is nerfed
EW is nerfed
Why not Woh that is more annoyin that sw and Ew?

luk wut?

Tab · Jan 10, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Do me a favour and go be bad somewhere else. Thanks.

damocles · Jan 10, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redvex

In Ra and Ta you see only Word of healing + Guardian + Dismiss condition, Word of healing + Guardian + Dismiss condition Word of healing + Guardian + Dismiss condition etc etc maybe gliph o lesser energy
You can define this kind of player a good player? Everyone can spam those skills!

Again this shows your lack of knowledge about this game. I would actually be happy if that's the only thing the enemy monk did, it would even be easier for decent players to kill him and his team.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 10, 2008, 11:32 AM // 11:32

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Originally Posted by Redvex

In Ra and Ta you see only Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition, Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition etc etc maybe gliph o lesser energy

Then go roll a mesmer. Kthx.

Aera · Jan 10, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

I wonder how long this thread will be open for.

We all know you ( the OP ) just fail at pressuring, interrupting, shutting down etc.

WoH is fine.

Redvex · Jan 10, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by damocles

Again this shows your lack of knowledge about this game. I would actually be happy if that's the only thing the enemy monk did, it would even be easier for decent players to kill him and his team.

As i think. Useless to discuss on this forum.
Bye and sorry.

the_deSKtructor · Jan 10, 2008, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by Redvex

In Ra and Ta you see only Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition, Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition Word of healing + Guadian + Dismiss condition etc etc maybe gliph o lesser energy

A noob monk makes the chain easily predictable for any kind of disruption u should have in your team.

makosi · Jan 10, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39

For a long time a monk's healing skills that were self-targetting were pretty poor and there weren't any decent energy-efficient elites that made their own red bar go up. This is why we had boon prots for so long in arenas because they could actually heal themselves but had to dedicate their elite to energy management. But that's ok because the good monk elites were target other ally only so it worked out well.

Along comes Zealous Benediction and a monk could then invest strongly in Protection and Divine and heal themselves and others well while being energy-friendly. People then cry "nerf!" It took a slight hit.

Word of Healing is like air to a monk in that they suffocate without it on a standard WoH template. Disable somehow and they will panic.

Some people are finding it difficult to cope with self reliant monks but they are far from invincible.

RyXXed · Jan 10, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39

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Originally Posted by the_deSKtructor

A noob monk makes the chain easily predictable for any kind of disruption u should have in your team.

QFT.

Either get an intterupt or roll a mesmer. Kthxbai.

Redvex · Jan 10, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Not invincible but 8 min in RA....is too much time. If you don't believe go and play Ra and you will see that 4 monk on 5 run WoH and look the other skill they use

DarkGanni · Jan 10, 2008, 11:56 AM // 11:56

The OP was mad when he made this thread just cause he can't beat a monk in PvP.

Interrupts FTW ~ ever heard that?

- Ganni

Lykan · Jan 10, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Wanting to see what he was running myself...

Washi · Jan 10, 2008, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by Redvex

Not invincible but 8 min in RA....is too much time. If you don't believe go and play Ra and you will see that 4 monk on 5 run WoH and look the other skill they use

I play RA and TA lots, mostly ranger and monk (about 70%/30%). As a monk I still prefer to run ZB, it's alot harder to use and maybe not as powerful but it makes your other prot skills powerful since you don't need to invest in healing prayers, also you have more points to spare on tactics/shadow arts or whatever you like to get for self defense.

And as a ranger, when I see someone using ZB they are usually better monks and alot harder to shut down, since most of them know how to pre prot, position, etc. Many woh users just spam woh to make the red bars go up, and are easy to shut down or simply run out of energy (lol). Ofcourse it's not always like this, I met some really awesome woh monks but I don't think the skill is alot more powerful than ZB, it's safer though.

distilledwill · Jan 10, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

sorry to the OP, WoH is a great elite, but its a simple spike heal.

Just pressure the other players with minor condition degen, force the monk into removing the conditions to drain his energy then as he is a little distracted, spike his bum dooown.

minor · Jan 10, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

As stated compare to ZB. There was a nice discussion on ZBvswoh in the TA forums and most agreed they both have their good points.

Taurus · Jan 10, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

He was prolly using a Direct Damage Build that couldnt get tru blocking and/or didnt have enough firepower... This thread should be closed and redvex should self-inject Cyanide.